Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/16/1998 08:05 AM House STA

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HB 481 - PERMANENT FUND DIVIDENDS FOR ESTATES                                  
                                                                               
Number 0001                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIR JAMES announced the first order of business is HB 481, "An               
Act relating to application for and payment of permanent fund                  
dividends of certain deceased individuals; and providing for an                
effective date."                                                               
                                                                               
Number 0006                                                                    
                                                                               
JULIE TAURIAINEN, Legislative Assistant to Representative Gary                 
Davis, Alaska State Legislature, presented the bill.  She said HB
481 corrects an inequity in the categories of individuals who may              
apply for permanent fund dividends (PFD).  One category of                     
individuals who have been deprived of receiving their permanent                
fund, these are individuals who are eligible to receive their                  
permanent fund but because they died during the application period,            
before applying, they do not receive their permanent fund dividend.            
In other words, they died at the wrong time of the year.                       
                                                                               
MS. TAURIAINEN said permanent fund dividends are applied for                   
between January 2 and March 31 of the year following the year for              
which the dividend applies, so you earn it the year before.                    
Currently regulation allows, that if an applicant applies and then             
passes away before receiving their PFD, their estate may keep the              
dividend.  However, if a potential applicant dies within the                   
application period, but before applying for the PFD, their estate              
is unable to file for the PFD.  This creates a class of individuals            
based solely on the date of their death.                                       
                                                                               
Number 0018                                                                    
                                                                               
MS. TAURIAINEN explained HB 481 fixes the problem because it allows            
for estates or heirs, of individuals who are otherwise eligible but            
died during the application period, to apply for the deceased's                
PFD.  It also adds into statute that an estate may keep a PFD of an            
individual who passes away after filing but before receiving their             
PFD.                                                                           
                                                                               
MS. TAURIAINEN concluded HB 481 requires no additional funding,                
however, the benefit to a family who are paying for a funeral or               
medical costs would be great.                                                  
                                                                               
Number 0023                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KIM ELTON indicated the class of individuals created            
isn't based on their death or the date of their death.  It's based             
on whether or not they made the application before they died.  He              
said we're not discriminating against someone because they died,               
it's because they didn't apply before they died when the                       
application period was open.                                                   
                                                                               
Number 0029                                                                    
                                                                               
MS. TAURIAINEN replied there are two ways you can look at that.  If            
you die on January 2...                                                        
                                                                               
[DUE TO A MALFUNCTION, A PORTION OF THE MEETING WAS NOT RECORDED].             
                                                                               
Number 0039                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MARK HODGINS made a motion to adopt HCSHB 481,                  
version LS1716\B, Cook, 4/15/98, as a working document.  There                 
being no objection that version was before the committee.                      
                                                                               
Number 0042                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIR JAMES asked Ms. Taurianinen to explain the difference.                   
                                                                               
MS. TAURIAINEN responded the difference is we're at the request of             
the permanent fund.  She referred to the bottom of page 1, on the              
original bill, the application date.  She said there was a separate            
application date that went through the 31st of July which created              
a problem for PFD because it was a whole new application date.  So,            
this falls in line with the current application date of March 31.              
Then the retroactivity was taken out on what is now Section 3, it              
used to say January 1, 1997, and now it's to 1998.                             
                                                                               
Number 0048                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIR JAMES asked if there were any objections to adopting HCSHB
481, version LS1716\B, Cook, 4/15/98.  There being none, that                  
version was before the committee.                                              
                                                                               
CHAIR JAMES noted for the record that Representatives Berkowitz and            
Ryan are present.                                                              
                                                                               
Number 0052                                                                    
                                                                               
NANCI JONES, Director, Permanent Fund Dividend Division, Department            
of Revenue, came before the committee.  She said we currently have             
a provision to pay part of your dividends to 18-year-olds, who                 
during their lifetime, their parents did not apply for them.  She              
indicated they made provisions for them and also for [the                      
Department of] Health and Social Services (H&SS) for children that             
are in their custody and seemed to fall through the cracks between             
the parents and H&SS, including disabled individuals who are not               
able to file for themselves.                                                   
                                                                               
Number 0058                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HODGINS asked who gets those permanent funds when               
you file for a dependent child or someone that's in the Division of            
Family and Youth Services system.  Does a child actually receive               
that or is that gobbled up in the state?                                       
                                                                               
MS. JONES replied no, it's put in a trust for the child.                       
                                                                               
Number 0062                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HODGINS made a motion to move HB 481 out of                     
committee as amended, with individual recommendations and attached             
zero fiscal note.  There being no objection, CSHB 481(STA) moved               
from the House State Affairs Standing Committee.                               
                                                                               

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